NOS OBRAS OTROS

this is a space for artists & poets of all different media to present works & to express ideas, comments, scraps, notes, rants, statements on anything & in any way they please. I wanted to have a space where artists & poets from all different points of view, styles, cultures, can present & discuss, comment on, each other's works. To encounter the works of other artists & poets in a freedom of existence and exchange, and to learn a lot and have a good time, too!
The name "Nos Obras Otros"indicates the works are a shared "Other" of each artist, an Other without any limitations or labels imposed.

Friday, December 17, 2010

Tuesday, December 7, 2010

Saturday, December 4, 2010

pROFILE mUSEUM


PROXY GALLERY (now showing: the asia-other collection): Select and assemble your own custom art exhibition with catalogue! Ultra hi-res art files, suitable for printing, are delivered in one custom pdf/ebook. Thousands of enlarged (custom, patented algorithms) and enhanced photographs (now, likely several hundred thousands, soon over a million,) mostly low-res cellphone, web-cam, and low-end digital camera self-portraits (self-packaging), culled from dating/social websites -- as you might expect, there is some explicit content (more than is permitted here unfortunately: you really should see them all, but it probably makes little difference) -- fascinating and occasionally disturbing. I've decided to also add a set of painting-filters -- this was good, as it enabled a 'recovery' of many more worthwhile images, and also clouded any possible erogenous/irregular corporate claims, but the project now extends beyond my life-span. I could easily make small paintings from these images but who support that activity? Let's see: commissioned portrait paintings, I'm thinking 12" square encaustic on panels, from your choice of subject are available for $15,000US. It's interesting to find the balance/inertia point between the look of photo and painting, and it speaks to the current social/heroic condition! Often it makes faces look squinty so it's necessary to 'bring-back' facial aspects. The display images on this site are but quick approximations of the larger art files which simply don't scale -- kinda like paint on canvas. Another advantage of the painting filters is that they drastically reduce the file sizes and make it well-nigh impossible for someone to covertly res-up these display images for printing. It's quite incredible to realize that many of these pictures were only 3-4K or so when I started to work on them. You may realize that this is not the first time I've collected anonymous found-public imagery: notably dumpster-diving (bicycling with backpack at midnight,) at photofinishers' in the 70's. And of course, there's the "Insatiable Abstraction Engine" -- collections from newsgroups. [http://bbrace.net/insatiable-abstraction.html] But come to think it, nearly all my work involves repeated multiples or collections of imagery. My new friends. Whenever possible I retained any color casts, cropping and lighting. The portraits are actually very considered, sometimes selections made/altered merely to obscure the identity that they wished to presumably portray initially. Sunglasses are a popular ruse, as are close-ups of cleavage, butts, tattoos, feet and groins. (Curiously, I've yet to see a picture of hands... ok, now I have: some intricate fingernails and the love/hate finger-tats.) Many feature-obilerating camera-flash-portraits in the bathroom mirror. Many of course, occur in and around motorized vehicles. Only one (so far) in a grocery store. And some, but surprisingly few, are filched from somewhere online, but this must be a risky choice in the event of an 'actual encounter.' How much introductory information/description do you want to put out there to begin with? There are some very creative, even artful, solutions to this dilemma. Various select groups of portraits are included in each PDF 500-page ebook/catalogue for $250 (sorry about the price but it was a hellish amount of work and I guarantee you won't be disappointed or YMB), and can be ordered directly. The images contain sufficient resolution to print them out on letter-size/A4 paper (or coffee-mugs, keychains, magnets, photo-stamps, cards, calendars, tea-towels...), for an instant exhibition. Use my verified Paypal account to have the DVD delivered at no charge: [bbrace@eskimo.com; http://bradbrace.net/buy-into.html] Or, even better, assemble your own catalogue/exhibition at the Proxy Gallery storefront [http://cart.iabrace.com/]. Art files are only $1 each. My new friends. Having been recently kicked-off Facebook (there was an anonymous report of a depicted nipple!), and losing 5,000 appreciative friends - it was the perfect place to host a social-media profile-portrait-collection, I've decided to also open an online storefront where individual high-res files will sell for only $1/each. [http://cart.iabrace.com] How hypocritical to object to profile pictures that were on FB to begin with; but it's fun to now position coloured boxes and bars over n•pples, c•nts and c•cks. How idiotic is that? The prints of course required different custom algorithms and some masterful retouching -- they look great! Technically given the incredibly diverse range of imagery it was difficult to make them all equally legible; despite a variety of intricate processing directives, the scripts would inevitably crash or be unable to render a decent image. These were handled individually as were the painting-filters. If I receive a reasonable number of orders, I'll offer additional states of the union or countries... but California had to be the place to begin. Sure to be a collectors' (socio-anthropologists') item! An amazing and compelling, collective portrait! The interspersed military/gangster imagery (or maybe something else), also introduces a new spin on the hopes for this already tenuous social-media culture. I've had to organize/sub-divide these in some fashion, so by state/country seems to be the prevailing approach. And given how often workers are compelled to move around, there's more of a local difference in cultural self-perception, body language, and social-sexual proclivity than you might expect. The classification boundaries are increasingly porous. Recently I set-up a "Caribbean" collection that will end-up being especially massive due to the many sub-nations, each of which wouldn't hold many entries. But you might wonder if any protrayed desire isn't really just vengenance from being infected by various disease/ vectors: I have it and so will you. It really is a perhaps overlooked (overly-present), socially significant era when a massive proportion of the population is able to individually exorcise their self-imagery instead of being routinely dependent on existing systematized systems of portraiture and presentation -- which is not to say that it's entirely free from stylistic-cultural-corporate constraints and codification (and why, for now at least, I left the imagery in a nearly random arrangement), but the individual, probably for the first time ever, is seen freely negotiating a shifting porous skein of varied reception... well, something like that...

Tuesday, November 16, 2010

My 1st Time @ the new LLPP on State for DBC


My work - "My 1st Time @ the new LLPP on State for DBC" is included in the new issue of Street Pulse - Madison's Homeless Cooperative Newspaper. You may buy it for a 1$ from vendors. Visit: http://madisonstreetpulse.org/

Sunday, November 7, 2010

pROFILE_mUSEUM - the oceania collection


PROXY GALLERY (now showing: the oceania collection): Select and assemble your own custom art exhibition with catalogue! Ultra hi-res art files, suitable for printing, are delivered in one custom pdf/ebook. Thousands of enlarged (custom, patented algorithms) and enhanced photographs (now, likely several hundred thousands, soon over a million,) mostly low-res cellphone, web-cam, and low-end digital camera self-portraits (self-packaging), culled from dating/social websites -- as you might expect, there is some explicit content (more than is permitted here unfortunately: you really should see them all, but it probably makes little difference) -- fascinating and occasionally disturbing. I've decided to also add a set of painting-filters -- this was good, as it enabled a 'recovery' of many more worthwhile images, and also clouded any possible erogenous/irregular corporate claims, but the project now extends beyond my life-span. I could easily make small paintings from these images but who support that activity? Let's see: commissioned portrait paintings, I'm thinking 12" square encaustic on panels, from your choice of subject are available for $15,000US. It's interesting to find the balance/inertia point between the look of photo and painting, and it speaks to the current social/heroic condition! Often it makes faces look squinty so it's necessary to 'bring-back' facial aspects. The display images on this site are but quick approximations of the larger art files which simply don't scale -- kinda like paint on canvas. Another advantage of the painting filters is that they drastically reduce the file sizes and make it well-nigh impossible for someone to covertly res-up these display images for printing. It's quite incredible to realize that many of these pictures were only 3-4K or so when I started to work on them. You may realize that this is not the first time I've collected anonymous found-public imagery: notably dumpster-diving (bicycling with backpack at midnight,) at photofinishers' in the 70's. And of course, there's the "Insatiable Abstraction Engine" -- collections from newsgroups. [http://bbrace.net/insatiable-abstraction.html] But come to think it, nearly all my work involves repeated multiples or collections of imagery. My new friends. Whenever possible I retained any color casts, cropping and lighting. The portraits are actually very considered, sometimes selections made/altered merely to obscure the identity that they wished to presumably portray initially. Sunglasses are a popular ruse, as are close-ups of cleavage, butts, tattoos, feet and groins. (Curiously, I've yet to see a picture of hands... ok, now I have: some intricate fingernails and the love/hate finger-tats.) Many feature-obilerating camera-flash-portraits in the bathroom mirror. Many of course, occur in and around motorized vehicles. Only one (so far) in a grocery store. And some, but surprisingly few, are filched from somewhere online, but this must be a risky choice in the event of an 'actual encounter.' How much introductory information/description do you want to put out there to begin with? There are some very creative, even artful, solutions to this dilemma. Various select groups of portraits are included in each PDF 500-page ebook/catalogue for $250 (sorry about the price but it was a hellish amount of work and I guarantee you won't be disappointed or YMB), and can be ordered directly. The images contain sufficient resolution to print them out on letter-size/A4 paper (or coffee-mugs, keychains, magnets, photo-stamps, cards, calendars, tea-towels...), for an instant exhibition. Use my verified Paypal account to have the DVD delivered at no charge: [bbrace@eskimo.com; http://bbrace.laughingsquid.net/buy-into.html] Or, even better, assemble your own catalogue/exhibition at the Proxy Gallery storefront [http://cart.iabrace.com/]. Art files are only $1 each. My new friends. Having been recently kicked-off Facebook (there was an anonymous report of a depicted nipple!), and losing 5,000 appreciative friends - it was the perfect place to host a social-media profile-portrait-collection, I've decided to also open an online storefront where individual high-res files will sell for only $1/each. [http://cart.iabrace.com] How hypocritical to object to profile pictures that were on FB to begin with; but it's fun to now position coloured boxes and bars over n•pples, c•nts and c•cks. How idiotic is that? The prints of course required different custom algorithms and some masterful retouching -- they look great! Technically given the incredibly diverse range of imagery it was difficult to make them all equally legible; despite a variety of intricate processing directives, the scripts would inevitably crash or be unable to render a decent image. These were handled individually as were the painting-filters. If I receive a reasonable number of orders, I'll offer additional states of the union or countries... but California had to be the place to begin. Sure to be a collectors' (socio-anthropologists') item! An amazing and compelling, collective portrait! The interspersed military/gangster imagery (or maybe something else), also introduces a new spin on the hopes for this already tenuous social-media culture. I've had to organize/sub-divide these in some fashion, so by state/country seems to be the prevailing approach. And given how often workers are compelled to move around, there's more of a local difference in cultural self-perception, body language, and social-sexual proclivity than you might expect. The classification boundaries are increasingly porous. Recently I set-up a "Caribbean" collection that will end-up being especially massive due to the many sub-nations, each of which wouldn't hold many entries. But you might wonder if any protrayed desire isn't really just vengenance from being infected by various disease/ vectors: I have it and so will you. It really is a perhaps overlooked (overly-present), socially significant era when a massive proportion of the population is able to individually exorcise their self-imagery instead of being routinely dependent on existing systematized systems of portraiture and presentation -- which is not to say that it's entirely free from stylistic-cultural-corporate constraints and codification (and why, for now at least, I left the imagery in a nearly random arrangement), but the individual, probably for the first time ever, is seen freely negotiating a shifting porous skein of varied reception... well, something like that...

Sunday, October 31, 2010

Halloween by me

This poem was kindly accepted by Peter Ganick for his experiential experimental literary blog:

http://ex-ex-lit.blogspot.com/2010/10/halloween-what-do-witches-bring-they.html

///

Saturday, October 30, 2010

for only 15 euros
email:bchiarl@tin.it

Sunday, October 10, 2010

pROFILE_mUSEUM - the spain collection


PROXY GALLERY (now showing: the spain collection): Select and assemble your own custom art exhibition with catalogue! Ultra hi-res art files, suitable for printing, are delivered in one custom pdf/ebook. Thousands of enlarged (custom, patented algorithms) and enhanced photographs (now, likely several hundred thousands, soon over a million,) mostly low-res cellphone, web-cam, and low-end digital camera self-portraits (self-packaging), culled from dating/social websites -- as you might expect, there is some explicit content (more than is permitted here unfortunately: you really should see them all, but it probably makes little difference) -- fascinating and occasionally disturbing. I've decided to also add a set of painting-filters -- this was good, as it enabled a 'recovery' of many more worthwhile images, and also clouded any possible erogenous/irregular corporate claims, but the project now extends beyond my life-span. I could easily make small paintings from these images but who support that activity? Let's see: commissioned portrait paintings, I'm thinking 12" square encaustic on panels, from your choice of subject are available for $15,000US. It's interesting to find the balance/inertia point between the look of photo and painting, and it speaks to the current social/heroic condition! Often it makes faces look squinty so it's necessary to 'bring-back' facial aspects. The display images on this site are but quick approximations of the larger art files which simply don't scale -- kinda like paint on canvas. Another advantage of the painting filters is that they drastically reduce the file sizes and make it well-nigh impossible for someone to covertly res-up these display images for printing. It's quite incredible to realize that many of these pictures were only 3-4K or so when I started to work on them. You may realize that this is not the first time I've collected anonymous found-public imagery: notably dumpster-diving (bicycling with backpack at midnight,) at photofinishers' in the 70's. And of course, there's the "Insatiable Abstraction Engine" -- collections from newsgroups. [http://bbrace.net/insatiable-abstraction.html] But come to think it, nearly all my work involves repeated multiples or collections of imagery. My new friends. Whenever possible I retained any color casts, cropping and lighting. The portraits are actually very considered, sometimes selections made/altered merely to obscure the identity that they wished to presumably portray initially. Sunglasses are a popular ruse, as are close-ups of cleavage, butts, tattoos, feet and groins. (Curiously, I've yet to see a picture of hands... ok, now I have: some intricate fingernails and the love/hate finger-tats.) Many feature-obilerating camera-flash-portraits in the bathroom mirror. Many of course, occur in and around motorized vehicles. Only one (so far) in a grocery store. And some, but surprisingly few, are filched from somewhere online, but this must be a risky choice in the event of an 'actual encounter.' How much introductory information/description do you want to put out there to begin with? There are some very creative, even artful, solutions to this dilemma. Various select groups of portraits are included in each PDF 500-page ebook/catalogue for $250 (sorry about the price but it was a hellish amount of work and I guarantee you won't be disappointed or YMB), and can be ordered directly. The images contain sufficient resolution to print them out on letter-size/A4 paper (or coffee-mugs, keychains, magnets, photo-stamps, cards, calendars, tea-towels...), for an instant exhibition. Use my verified Paypal account to have the DVD delivered at no charge: [bbrace@eskimo.com; http://bbrace.laughingsquid.net/buy-into.html] Or, even better, assemble your own catalogue/exhibition at the Proxy Gallery storefront [http://cart.iabrace.com/]. Art files are only $1 each. My new friends. Having been recently kicked-off Facebook (there was an anonymous report of a depicted nipple!), and losing 5,000 appreciative friends - it was the perfect place to host a social-media profile-portrait-collection, I've decided to also open an online storefront where individual high-res files will sell for only $1/each. [http://cart.iabrace.com] How hypocritical to object to profile pictures that were on FB to begin with; but it's fun to now position coloured boxes and bars over n•pples, c•nts and c•cks. How idiotic is that? The prints of course required different custom algorithms and some masterful retouching -- they look great! Technically given the incredibly diverse range of imagery it was difficult to make them all equally legible; despite a variety of intricate processing directives, the scripts would inevitably crash or be unable to render a decent image. These were handled individually as were the painting-filters. If I receive a reasonable number of orders, I'll offer additional states of the union or countries... but California had to be the place to begin. Sure to be a collectors' (socio-anthropologists') item! An amazing and compelling, collective portrait! The interspersed military/gangster imagery (or maybe something else), also introduces a new spin on the hopes for this already tenuous social-media culture. I've had to organize/sub-divide these in some fashion, so by state/country seems to be the prevailing approach. And given how often workers are compelled to move around, there's more of a local difference in cultural self-perception, body language, and social-sexual proclivity than you might expect. The classification boundaries are increasingly porous. Recently I set-up a "Caribbean" collection that will end-up being especially massive due to the many sub-nations, each of which wouldn't hold many entries. But you might wonder if any protrayed desire isn't really just vengenance from being infected by various disease/ vectors: I have it and so will you. It really is a perhaps overlooked (overly-present), socially significant era when a massive proportion of the population is able to individually exorcise their self-imagery instead of being routinely dependent on existing systematized systems of portraiture and presentation -- which is not to say that it's entirely free from stylistic-cultural-corporate constraints and codification (and why, for now at least, I left the imagery in a nearly random arrangement), but the individual, probably for the first time ever, is seen freely negotiating a shifting porous skein of varied reception... well, something like that...

Friday, October 8, 2010

Tuesday, October 5, 2010

except as otherwise noted.



from paintings & discussions 2010

Tuesday, September 28, 2010

MAIL ART CALL KAUNAS BIENNIAL

A CALL FOR MAIL ART WORKS : TEXTILE 11 / KAUNAS BIENNIAL , LITHUANIA

“ GEORGE MACIUNAS AND BEYOND : FLUXUS NEVER STOPS “

In conjunction with the Kaunas Biennial, I have been asked to curate an exhibition relating to the history and current activities of FLUXUS artists and affiliates. As part of the exhibition, I am putting out a call for work to the mail art community. As the Biennial is Fiber / Textile oriented, keep this in mind when you are creating work to send … The concept for the show is as broad as you can make it. Postcards, Artist stamps, Visual Poetry, Zine Work, Stickers, Anything ……

The show’s title “GEORGE MACIUNAS AND BEYOND : FLUXUS NEVER STOPS” relates in part to an homage of George in his hometown, Kaunas, and a celebration of his “local hero” status, as well as an exposure of continuity in the FLUXUS community . Pease send works no larger than A4 paper size, and include your Name and contact info on back. Documentation to all .

DEADLINE FOR SENDING WORKS IS JUNE 31ST, 2011
SHIP TO :
KAUNAS BIENNIAL / FLUXUS
c/o Keith A. Buchholz / curator
3449 Hartford
St. Louis, Mo. 63118
U.S.A.

Sunday, September 26, 2010

Mynd Eraser

Mynd Eraser is an asemic kinetic work-in-progress blog novel from Michael Jacobson. The plan is to post the pages in batches every few days. Stop by and check it out!

Thursday, September 23, 2010

Tuesday, September 21, 2010

on/in~versa le détroit

[( deStroit + sans titre) /2], sort of



tirages argentiques déchirés, papier calque, emballages plastiques variés, blanc d'oeuf, rétroviseur brisé, stylo bille, scanner-qui-déconne et HB sur carton de récup'

Sunday, September 19, 2010

Saturday, September 18, 2010

... 2007, french fedbaack touch



MaOAS VPE 2010 Madison WI

MaOAS Visual Poetry Exhibition 2010 (MaOAS VPE 2010)

Call:

Send/ Bring: concrete/ visual poetry/ aquatic life/ mail art. Poems/artwork/photography will be shown during MaOAS 2010
in Madison, Wisconsin!

Optional Theme: Ocean Life/ Oil Spills:
Aquatic works
(including environmental/ oil spill works) will be included along with works not on the theme.

Note for Madison Area Artists: Breeze In/ Breeze Out!

Participate/ Enjoy! Email attachments or bring/ send copies/ artwork to:

Matthew Stolte

19 S Franklin St Apt 1
Madison WI 53703-3078

matthewstolte@yahoo.com

This year's event is October 2 & 3rd, Saturday & Sunday. If work arrives on Saturday it will be shown!

Performances may occur spontaneously! After hour events likely! Vegan/ Veggie Food. Wine. Beer!

Saturday, July 3, 2010

PROXY ART GALLERY


PROXY GALLERY (now showing: the italy collection): Select and assemble your own custom art exhibition with catalogue! Ultra hi-res art files, suitable for printing, are delivered in one custom pdf/ebook. Thousands of enlarged (custom, patented algorithms) and enhanced photographs (now, likely several hundred thousands, soon over a million,) mostly low-res cellphone, web-cam, and low-end digital camera self-portraits (self-packaging), culled from dating/social websites -- as you might expect, there is some explicit content (more than is permitted here unfortunately: you really should see them all, but it probably makes little difference) -- fascinating and occasionally disturbing. I've decided to also add a set of painting-filters -- this was good, as it enabled a 'recovery' of many more worthwhile images, and also clouded any possible erogenous/irregular corporate claims, but the project now extends beyond my life-span. I could easily make small paintings from these images but who support that activity? It's interesting to find the balance/inertia point between the look of photo and painting, and it speaks to the current social/heroic condition! Often it makes faces look squinty so it's necessary to 'bring-back' facial aspects. The display images on this site are but quick approximations of the larger art files which simply don't scale -- kinda like paint on canvas. Another advantage of the painting filters is that they drastically reduce the file sizes and make it well-nigh impossible for someone to covertly res-up these display images for printing. It's quite incredible to realize that many of these pictures were only 3-4K or so when I started to work on them. You may realize that this is not the first time I've collected anonymous found-public imagery: notably dumpster-diving (bicycling with backpack at midnight,) at photofinishers' in the 70's. And of course, there's the "Insatiable Abstraction Engine" -- collections from newsgroups. [http://bbrace.net/insatiable-abstraction.html] But come to think it, nearly all my work involves repeated multiples or collections of imagery. My new friends. Whenever possible I retained any color casts, cropping and lighting. The portraits are actually very considered, sometimes selections made/altered merely to obscure the identity that they wished to presumably portray initially. Sunglasses are a popular ruse, as are close-ups of cleavage, butts, tattoos, feet and groins. (Curiously, I've yet to see a picture of hands... ok, now I have: some intricate fingernails and the love/hate finger-tats.) Many feature-obilerating camera-flash-portraits in the bathroom mirror. Many of course, occur in and around motorized vehicles. Only one (so far) in a grocery store. And some, but surprisingly few, are filched from somewhere online, but this must be a risky choice in the event of an 'actual encounter.' How much introductory information/description do you want to put out there to begin with? There are some very creative, even artful, solutions to this dilemma. Various select groups of portraits are included in each PDF 500-page ebook/catalogue for $250 (sorry about the price but it was a hellish amount of work and I guarantee you won't be disappointed or YMB), and can be ordered directly. The images contain sufficient resolution to print them out on letter-size/A4 paper (or coffee-mugs, keychains, magnets, tea-towels...), for an instant exhibition. Use my verified Paypal account to have the DVD delivered at no charge: [bbrace@eskimo.com; http://bbrace.laughingsquid.net/buy-into.html] Or, even better, assemble your own catalogue/exhibition at the Proxy Gallery storefront [http://cart.iabrace.com/]. Art files are only $1 each. My new friends. Having been recently kicked-off Facebook (there was an anonymous report of a depicted nipple!), and losing 5,000 so-called friends - it was the perfect place to host a social-media profile-portrait-collection, I've decided to also open an online storefront where individual high-res files will sell for only $1/each. [http://cart.iabrace.com] How hypocritical to object to profile pictures that were on FB to begin with; but it's fun to now position coloured boxes and bars over n•pples, c•nts and c•cks. How idiotic is that? The prints of course required different custom algorithms and some masterful retouching -- they look great! Technically given the incredibly diverse range of imagery it was difficult to make them all equally legible; despite a variety of intricate processing directives, the scripts would inevitably crash or be unable to render a decent image. These were handled individually as were the painting-filters. If I receive a reasonable number of orders, I'll offer additional states of the union or countries... but California had to be the place to begin. Sure to be a collectors' (socio-anthropologists') item! An amazing and compelling, collective portrait! The interspersed military/gangster imagery (or maybe something else), also introduces a new spin on the hopes for this already tenuous social-media culture. I've had to organize/sub-divide these in some fashion, so by state/country seems to be the prevailing approach. And given how often workers are compelled to move around, there's more of a local difference in cultural self-perception, body language, and social-sexual proclivity than you might expect. It really is a perhaps overlooked (overly-present), socially significant era when a massive proportion of the population is able to individually exorcise their self-imagery instead of being routinely dependent on existing systematized systems of portraiture and presentation -- which is not to say that it's entirely free from stylistic-cultural-corporate constraints and codification (and why, for now at least, I left the imagery in a nearly random arrangement), but the individual, probably for the first time ever, is seen freely negotiating a shifting porous skein of varied reception... well, something like that...

Friday, June 18, 2010

Saturday, April 3, 2010

new from sean (burn)







































yu might like to know two new artist booklets of mine are now available - let a thousand dictionaries bloom - (free pdf download or print on demand) at http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/let-a-thousand-dictionaries-bloom/6502103
- these are some images are from that booklet - while this is visual poetry by sean burn is now available as part of the this is visual poetry series (http://thisisvisualpoetry.com/)

best wishes sean (burn)












Wednesday, March 24, 2010


My new address:

Bruno Chiarlone
58, rue Bertolotti
17014 Cairomont
Italy

Monday, March 22, 2010

Sunday, March 21, 2010

start here.......



otherwise here is the photographic evidence.